Comments for Extreme Talk - Extreme Networks Blog http://blog.extremenetworks.com Fri, 17 May 2013 15:41:20 +0000 hourly 1 Comment on Virtual ExtremeXOS for Real Labs by pedro http://blog.extremenetworks.com/2013/04/xos-vm/#comment-6136 pedro Fri, 17 May 2013 15:41:20 +0000 http://blog.extremenetworks.com/?p=1489#comment-6136 Hi, is there a way to attach "normal" guest OS to the virtual extreme ? Hi,
is there a way to attach “normal” guest OS to the virtual extreme ?

]]> Comment on Extreme Performance Rocks Active-Active Cloud Test by network management http://blog.extremenetworks.com/2013/04/lippis-active-active-cloud-test/#comment-6135 network management Thu, 09 May 2013 20:59:41 +0000 http://blog.extremenetworks.com/?p=1533#comment-6135 Wow this compilation of press release really rocks and does give us an idea on hoe lippis works well with cloud. Wow this compilation of press release really rocks and does give us an idea on hoe lippis works well with cloud.

]]> Comment on Virtual ExtremeXOS for Real Labs by Karpiu http://blog.extremenetworks.com/2013/04/xos-vm/#comment-6134 Karpiu Wed, 08 May 2013 21:12:31 +0000 http://blog.extremenetworks.com/?p=1489#comment-6134 Lucky XOS works well with xen/qemu, after patching qemu I could add 24 ports to XOS VM but XOS see only twelve ports. Any one know how can I increase this number to all 24 ports ? Lucky XOS works well with xen/qemu, after patching qemu I could add 24 ports to XOS VM but XOS see only twelve ports. Any one know how can I increase this number to all 24 ports ?

]]> Comment on Easier with XOS by John Center http://blog.extremenetworks.com/2013/05/easier-with-xos/#comment-6133 John Center Wed, 08 May 2013 18:22:21 +0000 http://blog.extremenetworks.com/?p=1551#comment-6133 While I generally agree that EXOS takes fewer commands, the flip side is that these are macros. Once these commands are entered, they expand into multiple lines in the config. Having to modify these can be a PITA. Also, EXOS puts in multiple related commands, confusing as to what is actually taking place. For example: configure vlan default delete ports all configure vr VR-Default delete ports 1-26 configure vr VR-Default add ports 1-26 configure vlan default delete ports 1-26 So, are all the ports deleted, added or what? One plus with JUNOS is, you can edit the config, check it for errors, commit it and roll it back to the previous running config. This is my wish for EXOS, it has all of the pieces to do this, but not assembled in a way to make it work. While I generally agree that EXOS takes fewer commands, the flip side is that these are macros. Once these commands are entered, they expand into multiple lines in the config. Having to modify these can be a PITA. Also, EXOS puts in multiple related commands, confusing as to what is actually taking place. For example:

configure vlan default delete ports all
configure vr VR-Default delete ports 1-26
configure vr VR-Default add ports 1-26
configure vlan default delete ports 1-26

So, are all the ports deleted, added or what?

One plus with JUNOS is, you can edit the config, check it for errors, commit it and roll it back to the previous running config. This is my wish for EXOS, it has all of the pieces to do this, but not assembled in a way to make it work.

]]> Comment on Easier with XOS by nate http://blog.extremenetworks.com/2013/05/easier-with-xos/#comment-6132 nate Tue, 07 May 2013 04:45:35 +0000 http://blog.extremenetworks.com/?p=1551#comment-6132 I wrote on this topic a few years ago, I used Juniper as a counter example (not because I dislike them more so since they are not as well known as say Cisco but still popular) http://www.techopsguys.com/2009/09/29/simple-network-management/ Basically I came up with a pair of pretty basic, yet somewhat common tasks. I asked a guy who is well versed in Juniper to come up with the JunOS commands to perform these tasks and I wrote the equivalent in XOS syntax. If you don't want to click the link the gist was task 1: XOS: 1 command JunOS: 17 commands task 2: XOS: 12 commands JunOS: 54 commands On top of the fewer commands, the XOS commands were much easier to read and understand as to what they were doing. The JunOS commands by contrast were (and still seem to be now) quite cryptic. I wrote another article, along similar lines, on ESRP, http://www.techopsguys.com/2009/12/02/extremely-simple-redundancy-protocol/ I called it the Extremely Simple Redundancy Protocol even though that's not it's true technical name. I have long felt that if you want your life to be network management, then feel free to go with something like Cisco or Juniper or whatever. Go get your certifications and go nuts. The last network engineer I worked with I called him a "Cisco Kid", and was exactly this type of person. Fortunately he couldn't route his way out of a paper bag so when the time came we got Extreme. If you want to be able to do more than manage the network, for me my job involves networking (switching and load balancing - only minimal need for routing beyond the switches and a few VPNs - all internet routing is handled by upstream tier 1 ISPs - last thing I want to have to worry about is routing protocols like OSPF, BGP etc), storage, servers etc.. then use Extreme. The simplicity will allow you to get more stuff done. I wrote on this topic a few years ago, I used Juniper as a counter example (not because I dislike them more so since they are not as well known as say Cisco but still popular)

http://www.techopsguys.com/2009/09/29/simple-network-management/

Basically I came up with a pair of pretty basic, yet somewhat common tasks. I asked a guy who is well versed in Juniper to come up with the JunOS commands to perform these tasks and I wrote the equivalent in XOS syntax.

If you don’t want to click the link the gist was

task 1:
XOS: 1 command
JunOS: 17 commands

task 2:
XOS: 12 commands
JunOS: 54 commands

On top of the fewer commands, the XOS commands were much easier to read and understand as to what they were doing. The JunOS commands by contrast were (and still seem to be now) quite cryptic.

I wrote another article, along similar lines, on ESRP,

http://www.techopsguys.com/2009/12/02/extremely-simple-redundancy-protocol/

I called it the Extremely Simple Redundancy Protocol even though that’s not it’s true technical name.

I have long felt that if you want your life to be network management, then feel free to go with something like Cisco or Juniper or whatever. Go get your certifications and go nuts. The last network engineer I worked with I called him a “Cisco Kid”, and was exactly this type of person. Fortunately he couldn’t route his way out of a paper bag so when the time came we got Extreme.

If you want to be able to do more than manage the network, for me my job involves networking (switching and load balancing – only minimal need for routing beyond the switches and a few VPNs – all internet routing is handled by upstream tier 1 ISPs – last thing I want to have to worry about is routing protocols like OSPF, BGP etc), storage, servers etc.. then use Extreme. The simplicity will allow you to get more stuff done.

]]> Comment on Easier with XOS by Jason Lackey http://blog.extremenetworks.com/2013/05/easier-with-xos/#comment-6131 Jason Lackey Mon, 06 May 2013 20:43:00 +0000 http://blog.extremenetworks.com/?p=1551#comment-6131 Jonathan, you should be able to get an xKit account and download the XOS VM even if you are not a customer. Jonathan, you should be able to get an xKit account and download the XOS VM even if you are not a customer.

]]> Comment on Easier with XOS by Jonathan Matthews http://blog.extremenetworks.com/2013/05/easier-with-xos/#comment-6130 Jonathan Matthews Mon, 06 May 2013 19:56:57 +0000 http://blog.extremenetworks.com/?p=1551#comment-6130 I'm interested in the "[free] virtual switch lab" you mention. The last time I checked, I couldn't get the XOS VM without (a) being a paying customer and even then (b) pain! Has this changed? I really hope so! I’m interested in the “[free] virtual switch lab” you mention. The last time I checked, I couldn’t get the XOS VM without (a) being a paying customer and even then (b) pain!

Has this changed? I really hope so!

]]> Comment on Virtual ExtremeXOS for Real Labs by hygor http://blog.extremenetworks.com/2013/04/xos-vm/#comment-6128 hygor Thu, 25 Apr 2013 12:58:54 +0000 http://blog.extremenetworks.com/?p=1489#comment-6128 Thanks Paul. I tried to use the vm with Qemu. With no results. I'll try with vmware later Thanks Paul.
I tried to use the vm with Qemu. With no results. I’ll try with vmware later

]]> Comment on Virtual ExtremeXOS for Real Labs by David Buckner http://blog.extremenetworks.com/2013/04/xos-vm/#comment-6127 David Buckner Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:48:40 +0000 http://blog.extremenetworks.com/?p=1489#comment-6127 Well I got it working without it. Apparently I need to use 256 MB instead of the default 64. Figured this out by looking closely at the video explaining how to connect multiple switches together. Well I got it working without it. Apparently I need to use 256 MB instead of the default 64. Figured this out by looking closely at the video explaining how to connect multiple switches together.

]]> Comment on Virtual ExtremeXOS for Real Labs by David Buckner http://blog.extremenetworks.com/2013/04/xos-vm/#comment-6126 David Buckner Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:25:09 +0000 http://blog.extremenetworks.com/?p=1489#comment-6126 Any idea where I get the appliance file that is referenced in EXOS_VM_Lab_Guide.docx? I have scoured the zip file. Any idea where I get the appliance file that is referenced in EXOS_VM_Lab_Guide.docx? I have scoured the zip file.

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